senate, you spoke to senator daschle all the time. >> i had a red phone on my desk. sometimes the problems in washington or in the congress and administration, their staff people, so i had a red phone where when i picked up that phone, it rang one place, tom daschle's desk. when he picked it up, i knew i was talking to tom daschle. not his staff or my staff. i remember one time i called him, stepped out from a conference meeting and said, tom, you know we need to do this. i'm having problems. he said, i am, too. i said, let's do it. he said, let's go. i'll see you on the floor. we went up on the floor of the senate, we called the bill up, we passed it by sundown. you got to do that every now and then. even though you might catch a little flack from some. people within your conference. it's called leadership, anderson. >> so, what for you do you think was the moment that this changed, that compromise became a dirty words? democrats point to the tea party and say on the right, that's it, republicans will say on the left there's extremes as well.